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Discussion Question: Real ID and Cross Faction Roleplay [Jun. 22nd, 2010|09:33 am]
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Real ID is coming to World of Warcraft (I think with todays patch but don't quote me) and with it you will be able to 'friend' people not only on the opposite faction on your server, but on different servers as well.

Effectively, Horde and Alliance will now be able to communicate so long as the players know one another. So my question to you is this. Do you think this will make cross faction role play more acceptable? More prevalent? Will we see a rise in one race disguised/pretending to be another for the sake of playing alliance instead of horde or vice versa? Or will it completely not make a difference at all? I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the matter.
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[User Picture]From: kosmos_eve
2010-06-22 01:36 pm (UTC)

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Hopefully it makes no difference at all, but I'm sure someone will use it to do cross faction RP with their friends.
[User Picture]From: gizzybiscuits
2010-06-22 01:57 pm (UTC)

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A way to do crossfaction Rp besides the standard emotes would be fun (And not missing anything on the other side 'cause you logged) but I wonder if it'd give more room to potential stalkers or crap (Supposedly they get to see your first name on the adding thingy).
From: byip
2010-06-22 01:58 pm (UTC)

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I was excited about the prospect of cross-faction RP, but from what I've been able to tell, Real ID will disclose your full name to both the ones you friend, and the ones -they- friend. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I don't like the idea of giving out my name like that.
[User Picture]From: gizzybiscuits
2010-06-22 02:32 pm (UTC)

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Same. Already had a creepy-ass stalker prick and I still get occasional niggling worries that he'll come back, even if it has been two years. And I have a particular bitch on my friendslist so I may warn people if she comes back to the realm. I don't want her suddenly knowing my details or whatever 'cause she added me.
[User Picture]From: kosmos_eve
2010-06-22 02:09 pm (UTC)

General notes about Real ID for those who don't know

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Real ID will make your first and last name visible to the person you have friended (and they can only see you if they are your friend as well). They can also see you no matter which character you are playing on whatever server you are playing on or if you happen to be playing Starcraft 2 (and Diablo 3 when it's out).

It requires giving your Battle.Net login to someone so that you can be friends with them but this is never visible again once you are friended with someone.

Real ID friends of your Real ID friends will be able to see your name (but not your login).

It's really a system meant for you to be able keep in contact with friends and other people you trust with the information it displays.
[User Picture]From: wow_hazmat
2010-06-22 02:19 pm (UTC)

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I really think Blizzard made a misstep with this one. But, then, I was hoping for something like the way original Everquest allowed one to make pan-server chat channels and do cross-server tells. You could even join a channel on another server! It was quite awesome and really built up a feeling of community spirit, imo.
[User Picture]From: kosmos_eve
2010-06-22 02:37 pm (UTC)

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I think most people were hoping for something like Steam chat where you could use whatever name you wanted without needing to reveal any information. The problem is, and this is just me guessing, is that the Real Id system is the start of some larger social networking system Blizzard wants to start up for some reason. If it was just for cross game chat, there's no need for for the Id you have to give to be your Battle.Net login email and for it to show your real name.
From: ewcat
2010-06-22 02:40 pm (UTC)

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I'm not fond of this at all. I have hide-away alts when I want my WoW alone time, if that makes any sense, and if people -really- need me then they've got my email or my cell phone.
Also, apparently there is a hard-core raiding guild that is requiring people opt for this so the officers can keep tabs on folks. There might be more than one. That's a bit too intense for me.
It has some good things but overall seems like a facebook for WoW and if anyone has facebook you know there's gonna be people friending everyone on their friend's list. That alone would annoy the crap out of me.
"I wants to be your friend!" "Uh, do I know you?"
[User Picture]From: kosmos_eve
2010-06-22 02:44 pm (UTC)

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If a guild ever made Real ID required, I'd be leaving the guild.
From: varendil
2010-06-22 03:20 pm (UTC)

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Seems like bad timing after all the Facebook shenanigans, especially since Bliz is making full names visible to friends of friends. That's the only dumb part of the service. I'm going to enjoy not having to add every of my friend's alts on all of my alts.

Of course, everyone knows me from my blog, which is a click away from my personal blog, which has my real name and is a click away from my Facebook, so it's pretty irrelevant personally. I understand others' concerns, though.
[User Picture]From: izhara
2010-06-22 04:16 pm (UTC)

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Odds are good that they're going to patch it so they don't show your name to friends of friends if the feedback is negative enough.
[User Picture]From: kalifla
2010-06-22 03:39 pm (UTC)

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I'm for anything that allows more creation of your own factions - guilds that can war and hold territory like in other mmo pvp systems.

Failing the actual war/territory bit, just having the option of understanding is good. It will give players (mostly roleplayers from where I'm sitting) more freedom to choose their allies and hopefully much more interesting storylines. Most of the interesting shit happens when enemies team up to fight a greater threat!

I don't know about it making a difference in race-models-saying-they're-not-race-modeled. Not having a built-in description box hasn't stopped it, not having different skins for the same stats hasn't stopped it, not-dking hasn't stopped it. Social condemnation sure as hell hasn't prevented it.
[User Picture]From: izhara
2010-06-22 04:14 pm (UTC)

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I'm eagerly awaiting it because it's going to a) let me keep in touch with friends from other servers/factions (I've got a buddy on Mazrigos (I wanna say it's Mazrigos) EU for example) and b) promote cross-faction roleplay which finally lets players whose characters aren't blind flag-wavers talk to their friends who aren't an Alliance/Horde race.

To hell with Blizzard demanding the two factions feel like enemies, because none of my characters identify as members of them.
[User Picture]From: tinuviel
2010-06-22 04:27 pm (UTC)

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What I really don't like about this is the potential of hacking. As it is only intended for real life friends, co-workers and family I don't have issues with it displaying my full name, considering that all these people know it already. I am not a fan of friends-of-friends seeing my full name, as that requires them to be as responsible with their friend choices as I plan to be, but I can live with it (although I'd prefer an option along the lines of "Only display first name", which should give friends I know enough info to find me, but not enough for a stranger to ID me). However, if one of my friends gets their account hacked, the hacker has my full name. I am relieved to hear that my account log in won't be visible, but still. If someone send me an e-mail containing my full name I'd be much more likely to take it seriously than the usual "Dear User". I love the idea, but more tweaking is needed. Having said that - does anyone know if it is possible to access this outside of Blizzard games (like a normal chat engine) and if some sort of mobile app is planned?
[User Picture]From: kosmos_eve
2010-06-22 04:40 pm (UTC)

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You should treat every email as suspect no matter who it's from since your friend's email could be hacked and used to send out fake messages.

They may do aBattle.Net chat, but I think the Battle.Net team is going to be working on finishing up features for the Starcraft 2 Battle.Net sections.
[User Picture]From: aleros
2010-06-22 04:36 pm (UTC)

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I'm personally only going to real ID a few of my closest friends and people I don't mind knowing when/where I am. Otherwise, I know a lot of people that like to bug me a lot while on my main that I'd rather not have my real ID. I'm a little bit wary about the whole real life thing, but I've also never found myself to be stalker bait either. Only thing I'm wary about is that my name is unique, so Google and various other sites on the interwebs would make me easy to find.

I am curious if Blizzard is developing a battle.net messenger independent from any of their games.
From: arachnogeek
2010-06-22 08:19 pm (UTC)

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"I'm personally only going to real ID a few of my closest friends and people I don't mind knowing when/where I am."

^^^ THIS. ^^^

They've said over and over that this is a feature to keep in touch with people you -know and trust-. So yeah, you're not going to RealID Friend every single member of your guild, or even every member of the guild that you're fond of. If you've got hidey alts, then don't use the system.

I'm jazzed because I may be halfway interested in trying out an alt on A-side with a few close friends, and I'll be able to keep in touch with family members on other servers. That's it.

[User Picture]From: fawnuh
2010-06-22 05:16 pm (UTC)

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I think that this would be a really interesting use of RealID if you and your close, close friends frequently rped together.

One of my in-game friends right now is pressuring me to use RealID since we already have each other's cell numbers and emails, so that she can play her orc while I'm on my nelf. I'm really uncomfortable with this idea. I don't always want to talk to people, and while I totally don't account share.../ cough...if my family members did happen to get onto my account, I wouldn't be comfortable with her seeing their characters.

I don't think it'll be super prevalent in cross-faction, just because it discloses so much info.
[User Picture]From: bricriu
2010-06-22 06:18 pm (UTC)

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I'd love to use it for x-faction RP, but fuck if I'm handing out my real name to people I've only met in an online setting.
Suppose I could just change the name on my account to a fake one.

I'll just continue to use the Gnome to translate for cross-faction conversation.
[User Picture]From: kosmos_eve
2010-06-22 07:06 pm (UTC)

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To change your name on the account is a process that requires faxing Blizzard information.
[User Picture]From: sphaerus
2010-06-22 06:21 pm (UTC)

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Call me a privacy nut, but not only do I not want people knowing my real name via StalkerID, but I don't what them knowing where I am, what I'm doing, who I'm doing it on, and who I'm doing it to.

It's not that I have some horrible S&M fuckalt adventures when no one's looking, I just like my privacy. RealID is creepy as fuck and I wish I could straight-up turn off the feature as opposed to just not use it.
From: lorenazi25
2010-06-22 08:07 pm (UTC)

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As Sphaerus said, I'd be cleaning out your ERP alts right aboooooout now.

In regards to cross-faction RP? The few friends I had that played Horde have quit recently, so I don't see myself using it much. I don't see why they haven't just made a neutral language yet. Who cares if PvPtards call each other fags in a Warsong game?
[User Picture]From: lex_blue
2010-06-22 08:42 pm (UTC)

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Great idea (for people who don't have secret alts) -- but I'm also not too keen on displaying my full legal name to anyone but a small handful of RL friends. Hopefully they'll change that bit.
[User Picture]From: bricriu
2010-06-22 09:01 pm (UTC)

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That's the part I hate; there's no good reason that they can't let you pick a nickname.

It's just idiotic to require using your full name for something like this.

My wife, who does not play on the server (or faction) I'm on, will likely be the only one who gets hooked up via Real ID with me because, well, she already knows my name.
[User Picture]From: nyyght
2010-06-22 09:42 pm (UTC)

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I don't so much like the idea of sharing my full name with most of the people on my friend's list. However, there are two people who I think will be added. :3 One is my boyfriend and one is a friend of 3+ years. I don't need everyone else bugging me. I don't get much peace as it is.

This feature could turn out to be pretty useful or it could turn out to be a hacker's dream, depending on how people choose to use it. I don't think cross-faction RPs will increase much with this--except between close friends. :)
[User Picture]From: dancingspiral
2010-06-23 12:14 am (UTC)

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Honestly, I think people are blowing this way out of proportion.

I think it's a neat idea, personally, and I'm interested in trying it out. However, I think with all of the fuss over it and the whole name thing, that this will not be the final version of it. We'll probably see some changes to the system soon.
[User Picture]From: falloutbi
2010-06-23 02:11 am (UTC)

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I really don't get the whole name wank thing because if you have a Facebook or myspace it shares that information as well. And on Facebook you can see friends of friends
[User Picture]From: falloutbi
2010-06-23 02:10 am (UTC)

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I don't get the wank. It doesn't share anymore information than a Facebook or Myspace does. So if you have a facebook with your name on it and RealID gives you the motts, you may wanna go change your info on your profile to protect yourself
[User Picture]From: fawnuh
2010-06-23 06:10 am (UTC)

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Many people keep their social networks limited to strictly "real life" friends.

Is the info still out there? Yes. But you have to have a jumping off point to get at it. By not disseminating RL info to in-game friends of friends, you reduce the likelihood of unwelcome types of interactions.

Additionally, you can change your Facebook name to a name that is not your real, legal one.

It's a great program for those that don't mind sticking their information out there, but there are valid reasons to not want to use it as well. I'm glad that you will enjoy using it, but that hardly invalidates all other concerns. I like the word valid. I'm using it too much. Sorry.